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hugtopia_logs2020-02-10 03:18 pm
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King of the Future
♥ Who: Verstael, Noctis
♥ Where: Verstael's abode
♥ When: After this
♥ What: Traumatizing Noctis with future Lucis plans
♥ Rating: Nothing notable but potential death/violence/etc mentioning
Why he had agreed to this he wasn't certain. Noctis was important to other people, but to Verstael he was some king from the distant future that mattered little to his current circumstances. Nothing he had seen had caused him to regard Noctis as more than that. Despite having figured out who he was, he still saw him as little more than 'a friend of the boy'.
But, he had said he would. To some degree he almost hoped Noctis would stand him up. That way he could keep working without interruption and he would likely make better progress as far as he was concerned. Still, when he heard a knock at the door he let out a soft sigh and set aside that hope. Better to just get it over with. Hopefully it wouldn't take too long.
He opened the door to what should have been a typical townhouse like all the others Noct had seen, but some furniture had been thrown out, others had been brought in or built, and it was looking more like a lab now than a home. Extra desks to work on, new shelving put together to hold the growing collection of files along the walls, not a hint of homey decor that most people would like. Plain, sterile, and a bit ominous with that giant magitek engine he was working on just sitting out on one side of the room. Noctis might not recognize what it was, but it almost looked like a cage of sorts, created to house a power source that he did not yet have inside.
Plenty of paperwork was out of all varieties. Some out of place, as there were remedial worksheets for math sitting to the side. The simple addition and subtraction problems clearly weren't meant for him.
Others were journals he was working on accumulating data about the city, people and events that had occurred within.
But what Verstael led him to was a timeline. Their timeline, to be precise, though it started long before Noctis was born and he only took into account what had happened over a few years. Though it started slightly before, the first event listed on it was the passing of the Empress, followed by various events that occurred within the Empire at the time that Noctis had likely never heard of. His discovery of Ardyn, the recovery of Ifrit followed by the subjugation of Ifrit, various details about research into the scourge and what he discovered when, and the timeline continued beyond into Verstael's future, filled in using what he had learned from Cor and his journals, to include his work on the MTs. A small note was scribbled above the point where MTs were created that said, "Should MTs exist?" But he only went into the beginning before he stopped and the timeline ended.
Underneath the timeline pinned up on the wall he had various stacks things. Self-help guides, details about what the Starscourge was, notes about how MTs were created based on what he'd read, notes about Niflheim politicians that Noct had likely never heard of seemingly weighing whether or not they were a threat to the Emperor.
Still, he didn't seem to expect much of Noctis, waving a hand up to direct his attention to the timeline and asking almost flippantly.
"Have you any ideas?"
He didn't expect to get anything. He entirely expected Noctis to say some snarky remarks about the Empire and leave. Why was he wasting his time on this again...?
♥ Where: Verstael's abode
♥ When: After this
♥ What: Traumatizing Noctis with future Lucis plans
♥ Rating: Nothing notable but potential death/violence/etc mentioning
Why he had agreed to this he wasn't certain. Noctis was important to other people, but to Verstael he was some king from the distant future that mattered little to his current circumstances. Nothing he had seen had caused him to regard Noctis as more than that. Despite having figured out who he was, he still saw him as little more than 'a friend of the boy'.
But, he had said he would. To some degree he almost hoped Noctis would stand him up. That way he could keep working without interruption and he would likely make better progress as far as he was concerned. Still, when he heard a knock at the door he let out a soft sigh and set aside that hope. Better to just get it over with. Hopefully it wouldn't take too long.
He opened the door to what should have been a typical townhouse like all the others Noct had seen, but some furniture had been thrown out, others had been brought in or built, and it was looking more like a lab now than a home. Extra desks to work on, new shelving put together to hold the growing collection of files along the walls, not a hint of homey decor that most people would like. Plain, sterile, and a bit ominous with that giant magitek engine he was working on just sitting out on one side of the room. Noctis might not recognize what it was, but it almost looked like a cage of sorts, created to house a power source that he did not yet have inside.
Plenty of paperwork was out of all varieties. Some out of place, as there were remedial worksheets for math sitting to the side. The simple addition and subtraction problems clearly weren't meant for him.
Others were journals he was working on accumulating data about the city, people and events that had occurred within.
But what Verstael led him to was a timeline. Their timeline, to be precise, though it started long before Noctis was born and he only took into account what had happened over a few years. Though it started slightly before, the first event listed on it was the passing of the Empress, followed by various events that occurred within the Empire at the time that Noctis had likely never heard of. His discovery of Ardyn, the recovery of Ifrit followed by the subjugation of Ifrit, various details about research into the scourge and what he discovered when, and the timeline continued beyond into Verstael's future, filled in using what he had learned from Cor and his journals, to include his work on the MTs. A small note was scribbled above the point where MTs were created that said, "Should MTs exist?" But he only went into the beginning before he stopped and the timeline ended.
Underneath the timeline pinned up on the wall he had various stacks things. Self-help guides, details about what the Starscourge was, notes about how MTs were created based on what he'd read, notes about Niflheim politicians that Noct had likely never heard of seemingly weighing whether or not they were a threat to the Emperor.
Still, he didn't seem to expect much of Noctis, waving a hand up to direct his attention to the timeline and asking almost flippantly.
"Have you any ideas?"
He didn't expect to get anything. He entirely expected Noctis to say some snarky remarks about the Empire and leave. Why was he wasting his time on this again...?

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(He'd noticed the cage-looking thing in the corner, immediately suspicious, but paid it no mind for now. Just filed it away for the future.)
This wasn't a section of time that he was especially familiar with; well before his birth, and focused on Niflheim as he'd expected, it covered some of what he'd already seen from Ardyn, when he'd shared that conversation on the communicator between himself and the man standing before him. He recognized certain references- the subjugation of the Infernian, for one, still horrifying to him on multiple levels, not least of all the fact that two of six Astral covenants are already burned onto his arm. The question about MTs is another thing that stood out, and one he was immediately conflicted about in a way he never would have been before learning of Prompto's origin. The answer would have been "no" in a heartbeat. Now things were... complicated.
He crossed his arms, taking in the wall and its contents very carefully before he finally, reluctantly responded, "What's your end goal?"
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Which, if he managed it, would sort of take away Noct's purpose. But was that a bad thing? He personally didn't care about that.
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"Why'd you take Ifrit to Niflheim? Why subjugate him?"
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That part he didn't exactly regret. He always thought knowledge was good and more knowledge was better. It was a shame that it seemed to negatively effect Ardyn, though.
"He's already subjugated in my time," he remarked simply. The deed was done. There was no use crying about it, they needed to work with what was there.
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The shift of Ardyn's personality ought to be proof enough of that, but Noctis himself could attest that direct communion with a god was as unpleasant as it was awe-inspiring. The follow-up was a safer topic, so he reached up to tap the section of the timeline between when Ardyn was found and the Astral's corruption.
"You might be ahead, but Ardyn's not. Why not start with his timeline?"
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"You believe I can go to his timeline?"
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They shouldn't be here at all. Barely any of them were from the same time period, they all carry different memories and fragments of both past and future. Was it really so strange to consider?
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It was hard to know, they didn't have the information. So while he didn't necessarily think Noct's suggestion was stupid, he did wonder what would happen if they all started going to different places. Would his world be without him? Ardyn's world have two of him? What were the rules?
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Noctis gave the timeline another scan. No matter how he looked at it, it was still going back to that moment. Everything branched off of the knowledge Ardyn gave to them, didn't it?
"Pretty obvious that I'm not a scientist. But that's the kind of argument you get in any decent movie about time travel or changing the future by fixing the past. Like- test parameters, right?" He took science courses, he's not an idiot. "You always have to know the rules."
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He had thought about it some and that was what he believed for now, especially knowing that there were people who traveled between dimensions here. He glanced at the timeline again, but his next statement almost sounded homesick.
"I do not wish to go home to another world, even if it appears the same as mine."
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Because that was definitely how that sounded, and as far as he understood it, that wasn't the kind of change the others have been trying to figure out thus far. Maybe he should be grateful that if this were true, Verstael's plots wouldn't affect his future... still, what if the man's theory was wrong?
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His priority was, of course, his Eos.
But that didn't mean he had to eliminate any possibility of helping other ones. "Beyond that, how would you expect me to help any others if I am unable to help myself?"
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After a long pause to ponder it, Noctis could only offer another question: "Will you stop your emperor from taking over Lucis? End the war?"
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He folded his arms and looked to the timeline. "I have been struggling as is with how to reach out to His Imperial Majesty. Contact for business is simple enough, but should the nobles or generals perceive me as threatening their positions I shall have to avoid being assassinated."
He stated it so plainly, as if he was contemplating a somewhat complex grocery list, then mused aloud, "I shall have to evade assassination both within and outside my lab."
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An overly simple way of suggesting something unbelievably complex, maybe, but that was where all good ideas have to begin. And it was what he truly wanted, no matter what timeline it might be for.
"I don't know how much stock I'd put in Mors, but any Lucian king would want peace. War doesn't help us accomplish what we're meant to do. You want ideas? Don't give Ardyn any power, don't let him help you make an army to take over the world, don't use Ifrit for anything but defense if you have to use him at all. He hates humans, so any info he'd share with you would just lead to our destruction. That's how it goes, isn't it? Ardyn gets his knowledge and over time the world goes to hell."
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He paused momentarily. He had to see things in a different light now. For his part, he'd never really distrusted Ardyn before. Thinking of him as another potential enemy now was quite new. He frowned.
"I have already asked the Ardyn here what I may be able to do that would keep him from killing me. However, he has yet to suggest anything. If Ardyn's goals are different than what I had originally thought, then I will have to consider what he will do should I start changing the plans."
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He half-reached for the timeline, then paused, looking back to Verstael and holding out his hand instead. He wasn't about to mess with the supplies here or the timeline set up already without permission first, lest he get chewed out. People who draw timelines on walls could be weird like that.
"Can I add something?"
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The first was:
NIFLHEIM
-arranges peace treaty for emperor
-helps in attack that steals Crystal/kills king
-(probably) tips off army to destroy Titan
-(probably) tips off army to block access to Ramuh
And the other:
LUCIS
-clears blockades stopping access to Titan
-saves us from Meteor volcano
-breaks up a fight between us & Nif commander (after we wrecked Nif base)
-clears blockades to steyliff & hired merc to escort
Once finished, he stepped back and gestured to the... well, the mess. "He's playing both sides. Created problems for us and then was conveniently there to solve them. If you want to outsmart him, you should be doing the same thing- except for the countries, instead of secretly against them."
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"I had always thought Ardyn a valuable ally. Strong, resourceful, clever, the potential for unlimited knowledge... In the short time we had been working together it had been quite... enjoyable."
He rarely got to communicate with others as a peer.
All the more regrettable, then, that he had to view him in another light now. It felt like a loss somehow. All that time a new flame had been lit within him, wasted. Nothing but the machinations of a man who didn't care for him nor his country.
"He won't be simple to trick. I'll need to buy myself enough time to find a way to treat the scourge."
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He had hated it back then - still hated it even now - but at least time and distance had given him some extra clarity about the whole situation, not to mention getting to know the true, uncorrupted Ardyn here.
"His end goal is what I don't know yet, but based on the results, he probably wants to destroy both Lucis and Niflheim. Or the whole world, with the Starscourge. There's gotta be a way to mess it up behind his back."
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The hard part here was that Ardyn could see memories. Which meant the more people who knew about it, the more likely Ardyn could find out no matter how well hidden. Which would make it quite the undertaking to keep it unknown.
"Perhaps... I could find a way to have it machine built and operated. No memories to steal, then, and Ardyn is less interested in technology..."
A dangerous game indeed. But that's what it was to deal with Ardyn.
"I shall have to strategize further." With a sighed he made a few notes underneath Ardyn about potentially using machines. He followed the rest of the timeline with the tip of the pen, without writing, until it stopped at another spot and was reminded of something.
"Ah, you are a friend of the boy. What was his number?"
Because he knew that he'd have numbers somehow even if he hadn't seen his own journals. Also? Totally normal for friends to memorize other friend's barcodes.
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Nowhere in any universe anywhere did he ever want to - or plan to - think of Prompto as a number. He had a name, and that's all mattered to Noctis.
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For now he simply made a note to remind himself: 'Terminate ___________'.
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"Why not?"
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"You can't just kill him! What did he ever do to you?"
It was impossible not to be incensed at the implication, at the very idea of someone killing Prompto. No reason would be enough to convince him that it could be acceptable, but the idea of someone doing it so... nonchalant... it was infuriating, and he wasn't afraid to let that show.
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"Nothing in particular. However, he did request that he not exist."
Hence the note, but with a flick of his hand towards the notes above MTs, he added, "I do not know if he has the right to determine that for all of them. However, I can grant his request for himself."
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"Are you sure?" he asked, finally, his voice strained. "You didn't misunderstand what he meant? He really asked for this?"
He wanted to believe that it was just a lie, some twisted fabrication cooked up by a cloning scientist working for the enemy. Even if the confusion on Besithia's face seemed genuine, it couldn't be right. Prompto would never.
But... what if he did?
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"He did not wish to exist and he did not wish to procreate. He thought the world would be better off."
A hint of lurking irritation colored his tone. What an absolute waste. Here he had the best genes in the world and he was throwing it all away. He wasn't even offering the potential of passing those genes on to someone who might make better use of their natural talents.
It had been a straight up insult to Verstael. "He believes there may be something wrong with his genes."
Nor did he want the other MTs to exist, but Verstael had questioned whether Prompto should have the authority to make that sort of decision. It seemed logically inconsistent to let him. But if he didn't want to exist, he could make that happen.
And maybe somewhere, deep within, it stung. He still had a human side, and knowing that he would have no progeny, no continuation of the line... It hadn't exactly been something he spent a lot of time thinking about, but coming here and finding out so suddenly his line would be cut short had been unnerving. A future with so many possibilities slammed against a concrete wall and stopped short.
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He bent down abruptly and crossed the word off the page, shaking his head. To hell with Prompto's wishes. Whatever he was thinking, it's wrong, and Noctis refused to go along with it.
"Don't do it." His voice is firm, more quietly angry this time now that he understood the source of the note. Verstael might be his own kind of monster for accepting the request without question, but Noctis could believe his claim unless Prompto said otherwise. "I'll talk to him."
And he'd do everything in his power to keep that damn number away from this man, unless the end result would be sending Prompto to Lucis where he belonged.
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Frustrating, really. It might not have happened yet, but Verstael could put himself in his own future shoes, and he saw no reason that he would manipulate genes to be weaker. Prompto didn't seem to take to that explanation, though. How could someone with his genes be so foolish?
But for that part, he didn't argue against Noctis. He had no reason to. Prompto was nearly a stranger to him, and they hadn't formed a bond despite meeting. The boy didn't even like science class. Clearly some sort of horrible mutation happened during his fetal stages. He held neither any particular love nor resentment for him, and had no reason to pursue a goal that would alienate potential allies - or, in this case, any potential truce they might have.
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All of that was for a different conversation, though, not something to debate with this man, so he straightened up and looked back at the board.
"Anything else you want?"
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Though, if he were honest, Noct had proven more valuable than he initially suspected he would. Which actually did cause him to pause after saying that, evaluating. Perhaps he had judged too quickly.
"Unless you happen to have a clearer step by step guide on how to rejuvenate someone who is... despondent."
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It made him think of his dad, and how he must have suffered after losing his wife. Noctis knew there must have been times when he struggled, when the pain was too much to handle. It had been shown in the days where he'd buried himself in his duties, shirked his family life under the guise of serving the people, to avoid questions or perhaps to just avoid seeing the child who so closely resembled the woman that he missed. He'd seen photos, he knew. That excuse only worked if the king was in council meetings or trade negotiations, not viewing flowers on television or attending a festival with his own private entourage when they could easily experience it together. Understanding the situation better as an adult took the sting off, but those memories remained nonetheless.
It's why his response was, eventually, "Does he have any children?"
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It had been completely overshadowed. A disservice to the young boy for certain, but not one that Verstael had looked deeply into. He could pity the boy in his own distant way. Especially since...
"I have learned recently that he will die young. He does, however, leave behind a daughter."
That would be their future. A shame for the boy to have such a tragic life.
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Noctis closed his eyes for a moment - just a few seconds, long enough to catch himself and remember where he was - and crossed his arms over his chest. That was... eerie. Uncomfortably so. But at least it gave him a response that might be halfway useful one day.
"Do not bring it up here," he began, very carefully, "But one thing that can help a man through the grieving process is being reminded of what he still has left. Having a child is a big deal, and the kid needs a father. Maybe you can get him to focus on that, and everyone'll be better off for it."
For all the bad days they'd had, there were still plenty of times where he'd managed to make his dad smile. There were times when Regis surprised him by following through on his promises, and he cherished those memories dearly. They were happy, in their own way, and Regis wasn't the king that Mors was. Family could make all the difference; it could make one consider more carefully the choices made and how it might affect those around them. An emperor that cared about lost lives - like that of his son - might think twice about carrying on an endless war.
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He tiled his head as his gaze fixed on that part of the timeline. A calculated way of looking at it, but at least with pure intentions. Depressed or not, his Emperor was a good man. Others had not thought that the Emperor cared about his son. Verstael couldn't believe that to be the case, but it had been rather difficult to convince others about anything positive when it came to His Radiance. All they seemed to see was a vile monster - nigh unimaginable to Verstael.
"Perhaps... I had judged you too quickly," he murmured softly, his eyes locking on Noctis for a moment before he took the pen back and his gaze turned to the part with the MTs. He didn't often change his mind, but he was willing to when he was given good reason. Noctis had been rather reasonable and given decent input.
He more completely filled in the scratched out word, so that it was completely and neatly covered, leaving only the note about MTs. "Very well. You may have the boy." He knew how to give and take. This was something Noctis wanted and mattered little to him in the scheme of things. And thus far, Noctis' input had given more than Prompto's, so he would allow it to overtly override Prompto's desires.
He placed some notes about the First Magitek Production Facility and when it is supposed to be created underneath.
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He may not be born for a while - let alone useful - but Verstael was clearly looking into things as a long game. May as well let him know what he was in for.
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It didn't bother him. It was the natural way of things. People protected their homes and people they knew before they protected strangers. He was just baffled why so many didn't seem to understand that when it came to him.
"I have considered speaking further with Regis. He is not the king yet in my time, but it seems in approximately seven years..."
He wasn't sure how much they could manage in their current situation. With King Mors at the head, and no experience in a place like this, trying to negotiate peace would be quite difficult. Neither side would trust the intentions of the other.
"There is much to be done. If we are to be successful I will require some cooperation. I hope to find more concrete answers concerning Ardyn as well. I cannot distract him for the amount of time it would take to find a cure. He's too clever for that."
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He'd been one of the lucky ones, deemed important enough to see the Oracle so soon after his attack that the Starscourge hadn't sunk in too deeply. It was always there though, under the surface. The sickness left scars that don't ever heal. His magic, stifled and and stuttered for the rest of his life no matter what anyone did, was proof enough of that to him.
He seriously doubted one man in a lab could undo what the Astrals have been unable to purify without help for millennia.
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His confidence didn't waver one bit.
"There's a difference in the methods previously used and mine. I don't rely on the divine to get my results. Ardyn, the Oracle, the gods... The kings as well, they have all depended on such power. You can't keep using the same methods and expect different results. It's almost a guarantee of failure." He gestured slightly towards the journals that went further into the future. "The predictability of that dependence is a large part of what leads to the downfall of both Lucis and the gods. Anything can be defeated if you know how. ...That includes the Starscourge. Give me the time and the resources and I shall prevail where the Astrals did not. Of that, I have the utmost confidence."
And it showed. On his face as he proudly held it up despite barely being Noctis' size, in the unflinching expression, in the firm stance he held like he was ready to resist being pushed over. He could do this. He knew he could with every fiber of his being.
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"Plenty of people would call that arrogance, and I'm not here for it. Be careful it doesn't make you screw things up a second time."
Either way, he was on his way out. The concept of changing the future was still something he struggled with - because what if it just made everything worse? - so it felt a lot like betraying his whole destiny to be doing it at all. Theorizing about a potential alternate universe was toeing the line, but he had to be cautious lest he cross it.
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"This is why I prefer logical consistency over morals or emotion. Were we to announce that Niflheim may produce a cure for the Starscourge in a mere 15 to 20 years, would your citizenry have the same response?"
He doubted it. People were desperate. He hadn't even been looking for a cure and some turned to him for answers. He'd never particularly been trying to go down that path before, but if he did...
As far as he saw it, Noctis was spitting in the face of any potential cure because he did not like the man producing the results. It made no sense to him to be against looking for a cure or to see such actions as a cause to an apocalypse worse than their apocalypse.
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"Depends on what Nilfheim wants in exchange," were his final words as he walked out the door.
The people might welcome a cure. But Niflheim had never been a charitable country, and having seen the timeline on the wall he knew now how far back the experiments with daemons went. He wouldn't place his trust in them to save the world they've been slowly destroying for centuries.