"I... yeah. I do. I'm pretty sure. I just, y'know, I might suck at it?" Because what the hell was he even doing. He didn't know, but trying to figure things out had always been easier because he knew he at least had Shinji on his side. By that logic, wasn't this the safest bet of all?

"You can push me a little though, since..." He made a hapless gesture. What do. "I know you won't push me anywhere I don't want to go." Kai gave him an embarrassed smile, squeezing that hand he still held under the water. "I'll tell you if something's a lot."